The Rest Is Politics

The Rest Is Politics

Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart break down current affairs in the UK and abroad. The Rest Is Politics analyses the latest international news, provides debate on global issues, and reveals secrets from Westminster, whilst bringing back the lost art of disagreeing agreeably. With insider perspectives and expert analysis, The Rest Is Politics is the go-to podcast for anyone seeking intelligent, engaging discussions on British and global politics. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Join with a FREE TRIAL at therestispolitics.com for exclusive bonus content including Rory and Alastair’s first ever miniseries, early access to episodes and live show tickets, ad free listening, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members chatroom. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com. Social Producer: Celine Charles Lead Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producer: Daisy Alston-Horne Producer: Evan Green Exec Producer: Bella Soames
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Rory Stewart and Yuval Noah Harari explore the concept of 'thinking the unthinkable,' drawing parallels between historical failures to grasp existential threats—such as the Aztec Empire's encounter with the Spanish—and modern risks like AI and pandemics. They examine how human psychology, specifically a 'brain-stomach barrier,' can lead to denial in the face of emerging technological shifts. The discussion delves into the geopolitical implications of AI, arguing that unlike previous tools, AI acts as an autonomous agent. The speakers address the challenge for nations like the UK to maintain sovereignty through independent infrastructure and open-source models, rather than becoming technological vassals to foreign powers, while warning of a future where humans may become subject to incomprehensible, autonomous systems.

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AI is this alien invasion. I mean, for me, AI, the acronym is not artificial intelligence. There is nothing artificial anymore about AI. Artificial brings to mind something that we create and is under our control. But AI is not artificial in this sense. It's really an alien intelligence.

00:07:21 · Harari redefines the perception of AI from a man-made tool to an unpredictable, inorganic entity that is fundamentally foreign to human understanding.

I would say in many of these cases of these existential risks, and we certainly see it with an AI, is there is a brain-stomach barrier. Like our brain, our intelligence, based on various data, starts understanding something, but our stomach says, nah, that cannot be possible.

00:09:50 · Harari explains the psychological struggle where human intuition and gut feeling reject the reality of unprecedented threats despite logical evidence.

If your entire economy and military is run on AI infrastructure that the Americans can shut at the press of a button, you are no longer an independent country.

00:12:43 · Rory Stewart highlights the immediate loss of national sovereignty that occurs when a nation becomes dependent on foreign-controlled AI technology.

There are many differences, but the biggest one, the most crucial one, is that this is the first time that we are creating agents and not tools.

00:24:26 · The speaker distinguishes AI from previous industrial revolutions by its ability to act autonomously.

History is not deterministic. We always have choice, at least until the AIs really take over.

00:29:26 · The speaker rejects the idea that technological advancement is an unalterable fate and asserts the necessity of political agency.

Episodios

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The Greatest Threat Humans Just Can’t Stomach with Yuval Noah Harari

Rory Stewart and Yuval Noah Harari explore the concept of 'thinking the unthinkable,' drawing parallels between historical failures to grasp existential threats—such as the Aztec Empire's encounter with the Spanish—and modern risks like AI and pandemics. They examine how human psychology, specifically a 'brain-stomach barrier,' can lead to denial in the face of emerging technological shifts. The discussion delves into the geopolitical implications of AI, arguing that unlike previous tools, AI acts as an autonomous agent. The speakers address the challenge for nations like the UK to maintain sovereignty through independent infrastructure and open-source models, rather than becoming technological vassals to foreign powers, while warning of a future where humans may become subject to incomprehensible, autonomous systems.

17 sep. 2026
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572. Trump’s Next Middle East Crisis and Reform’s £72m Megadonation

This episode explores the escalating geopolitical threats in the Red Sea, specifically focusing on how the Houthi movement's control of key maritime passages poses an existential risk to global trade and the stability of Gulf states. The discussion also examines the complexities of AI regulation, debating whether calls for a pause are driven by genuine safety concerns regarding autonomous agents or corporate self-interest. Additionally, the conversation addresses the influence of massive individual political donations in the UK, advocating for stricter donation caps to protect democratic integrity. Ultimately, the speakers argue that these disparate crises—from Yemen to AI development—are symptoms of a broader collapse of established global rules and international norms.

16 sep. 2026
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571. Rory and Alastair Challenge Ed Miliband on Israel-Palestine

UK Foreign Secretary Ed Miliband and guests discuss the UK's independent foreign policy, focusing on recent sanctions against Israeli settlers and the humanitarian crisis in Gaza. The conversation explores Britain's stance on the illegality of occupation and the necessity of a two-state solution. The discussion further examines Britain's role as a middle power in a changing global order. The speakers debate the importance of building an 'alliance of middle powers' to achieve strategic autonomy from the US and China, while navigating complex Middle Eastern diplomacy involving Iran and regional stability.

15 sep. 2026
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"Our Generation Was Lied To": Two Gen Z MPs on Fixing Politics

Host Vicki Spratt interviews Gen Z Labour MPs Rosie Whiting and Keir Maither to explore the systemic challenges facing their generation, including housing instability, student debt, and the climate crisis. The discussion highlights a breakdown in the social contract, where traditional markers of success no longer guarantee financial security. The conversation also delves into the unique pressures of being young politicians in Parliament, navigating ageism, and addressing the mental health crisis driven by socio-economic factors. Ultimately, the speakers advocate for intergenerational connection and political engagement to bridge growing societal divides.

10 sep. 2026
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570. Why Trump Acts Like a Russian Asset and Miliband’s West Bank Sanctions

Rory Stewart and Alistair Campbell examine the geopolitical shifts surrounding Trump's envoys meeting with Putin and Zelensky, exploring the strategic challenges facing Ukraine amidst missile shortages and Russian attacks on energy infrastructure. The discussion also covers the difficulties in forming a 'middle power alliance' among nations like the UK, Canada, and Japan due to differing national threats. The episode further critiques the lack of radical economic vision within the current UK government and analyzes the rise of political nationalism, specifically regarding the funeral of Ratko Mladic in Serbia. The conversation concludes with reflections on modern political 'theaters of cruelty' and the disconnect between Westminster politics and local communities.

09 sep. 2026